@Ashkuri said in What's up with the two Age of Heroes games?:

@catzilla This is the one that I referenced in my post above.

Honestly if they had just asked “hey can we use this is that cool” at the start, or said at any point “my bad, I think the AI scooped it and I didn’t know,” there wouldn’t be an issue. It’s the obfuscation and weird refusal to credit a coder with his code beyond the “idea” that frustrates me.

Totally agreed. Like, character wiki code ‘stealing’ is common and nobody bats an eye (rightfully so). So if this person was like, ‘oh I thought this was in the same guidelines, my bad’ or whatever, then no problem. Or even offering to put a ‘inspired by Trashcan’s code’ credit or something.

The double down denying is always so weird.

Since there are two games with the same name and one of them is displaying some dubious behavior so far…

Can we get some links to these games? Like this url is the ‘good’ one and this one is the ‘bad’ one?

@catzilla said in Real life happy:

My reminder of that incident reminds me of another thing.

Anyone remember the infamous Digichat game Shadows on the Bay? With the super incest magic family? And a bunch of other terrible things?

The gamerunner/head admin was all about WLW. Their supposed WLW partner helped them run the site. And there was a random dude that did the coding work.

Turns out the ‘random dude’ was actually the partner and the gamerunner had a jealous streak so bad they didn’t even want anyone touching their partner as their actual male self…

It was weird.

I am reminded of a similar crash out back on… NOLA 2?

A player posted a NSFW log (it was this player and their IRL partner) on the wiki without tagging it. The head staff/game runner asked said person to either remove it or at least tag it.

The player then proceeds to crash out, tearing down everything about them and their partner’s characters from the wiki. Apparently also threw a tantrum at staff about the whole situation before leaving. Their partner seemed genuinely apologetic (and embarrassed) about it all, said sorrys for their partner and them, then quietly left as well.

@Coin said in MU Peeves Thread:

@sao said in MU Peeves Thread:

STOP VAGUEBLOGGING IT’S 2026

no

@Prototart While probably 95% accurate… this is not as interesting (to us tea sippers) as whatever actual log happened.

@allthecookies said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Coin

It hurt my brain to see the whole thing go down.

Story time?

@Ashkuri said in MU Peeves Thread:

If you sign up for something

Go to it

Or tell someone you aren’t going to it

Fucks sake

I would say an exception to this is like, one of those big 20-30+ people social scenes where 1-5 people unexpectedly not showing up isn’t going to effect anything.

A smaller scene? Especially one that might center around your character being there? Unless something has happened IRL where you literally cannot send a quick ‘sorry something IRL has come up, can’t make it tonight’, then totally agree.

@Juniper said in Long or Short? Application Process!:

If I have to apply, I’m already gone.

What is an ‘application’ to you?

I probably should have clarified or something my original message.

At least to me, an application is just ‘here is my character’. It could be as simple as a picture (or description) with a 1-3 sentence concept/history. Or as ‘complicated’ as having 20+ stats to keep track of with detailed descriptions of them.

Inspired by the discussion in another thread.

Do you prefer lengthy/intensive application process? Or a shorter one where you get into play quicker?

I’ll go first

Back in the day I didn’t mind a longer application because I thought that meant that the STs would use some of the information from the 100 paragraph novella they required to get approved. However, in the 20-30 years I’ve been RPing, STs using stuff from my character’s background (whether in plot or even a SINGLE scene)… I can count on one hand.

So, I like shorter. I just want to get into the action and focus on the plots the game is offering.

How about you?

@Gashlycrumb said in Numetal/Retromux:

I don’t know about “slightly upset” but once upon a time a review of this sort was considered valuable information for the community.

It still is valuable information.

Wikibara, however, tanked their credibility a bit by throwing in the whole ‘the staff are secretly racist’ bit.

ETA: Staffers can and should show people the door that they don’t think will vibe with their game for whatever reason. Just as the players can and should leave a game they don’t vibe with for whatever reason.

@Wikibara said in Numetal/Retromux:

@catzilla
I don’t share hate messages anywhere or with anyone; they hurt enough when I get them, and after seeing the warm reception that I got here, it’s not exactly a shining example of open-minded folk.

There’s no world where I choose to share some hate message to appease anyone, least of all this place. This is not where it belongs.

@Jennkryst
“Please, share a hate message, it means a lot to us.”

Riiight.

It doesn’t ‘mean a lot to us’. This response is just showing that you are being disingenuous with your ‘concern’ or intent for including that you received an anti-sematic message after getting banned.

If you truly believed that someone from the server (especially if you believe it was STAFF), then why wouldn’t you share it to show others that this game is supposedly ran by racists?

Tell us WHY you included that statement otherwise?

In thirty-ish years of the hobby, I’ve been banned twice; three times if Reno counts, although it was in the last, like, week or so of it operating, so I’m not sure if it means much. “Couple” games is two.

Yes, I have seen you banned from at least two games. I’m glad we can both count.

@Wikibara This game was not for me. I think two of the staffers are okay human-wise, but I am not buddy buddy with anyone nor would I recommend this game to most people.

I have also seen some crass things on the Discord server. Someone joined the server, someone immediately made a poop joke about their name.

Again, I point this out to show that I am not buddies or trying to circle the wagons or whatever around the staffers. I’m definitely not an ‘apologist’.

However, it is absolutely insane to immediately credit a hateful message you received to the staffers that banned you. Maybe it did some come from shitlord on the server, maybe not. The staffers do seem to have a history of letting shitlords hang out on their game longer than they should.

Jennkyrst is right that if you truly believed that this message was someone from this game, staff or player, you should immediately have posted that shit here. Otherwise, it doesn’t have anything to do with your banning or the game.

I have seen you banned from at least a couple games now. Maybe you should look inward to change the behavior that keeps leading to this result rather than saying ‘I got banned from this game AND they’re all super racist!’

@Prototart said in Numetal/Retromux:

A lot of the time a moral victory is the only kind you can get.

The best moral victory is just leaving, letting them have their mutual admiration society*, and finding a better game.

*Google says this is nicer than the term that came to mind.

@Yam No specific tea to share from me. Just observations from my time spent there.

If you are part of the IT Crowd for Werewolf or Vampire
(coughcough a ST for one sphere but playing in another sphere coughcough), this is a GREAT game.

If not, may the odds (of being noticed by STs/players/etc) be ever in your favor.

This game had potential after jujube/inuki/pikachu/etc left but still has that the feeling of, if you’re not part of the ST crowd, don’t bother.

ETA: I will say the game is better without the toxic former headstaff but still has the clique energy. Do with that what you will.

@Tez said in RP Standards:

Except just now I tried to google literate vs semi-literate for definitions and apparently it has to do with length, not grammar and readability at all.

This isn’t even exclusive to Discord. I saw those labels in my forum RP days (10-15 years ago), as well as ‘beginner friendly’ vs ‘advanced’. I even remember similar labels waaaay back on AOL for various guilds, groups, games, etc.

I’m glad most games/communities I see these days don’t have those labels since like Tez said, it wasn’t/isn’t about how well you write. It’s about how much purple prose you can fit into your pose so that you meet the minimum 1500 word count.

@MisterBoring said in Paid Role-Playing:

There’s part of me that wouldn’t be surprised if there were people in the hobby that paid other people to build their character’s wiki pages.

I could be getting paid for this?

@Lemon-Fox said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

@SpilledBeanz Well good on Cujo. Ugh, I’ve been jonesing to log back on, and it’s good to see him actually take a stand on something, even if it took something this awful to get him to do so. We’ll see.

sharayr always gave me a really weird vibe. Never RP’d with the other guy though.

I wouldn’t.

I have a very big feeling that it was only taken care of is because it involves obviously illegal stuff.