<![CDATA[Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0]]>Yesterday, @Yam linked this to me, and I innocently and naively went ‘oh, it’s fine, I upgraded my OS already and Atlantis has been fine’.

IT IS NO LONGER FINE. SAVE YOURSELVES.

ETA: Pax is aware of this, obviously, but her RL is not such that she will be able to devote time to looking at it.

Another ETA: Apple has instructions to downgrade your OS here.

Another another ETA: sob the above doesn’t work sob

]]>https://brandmu.day/topic/249/atlantis-users-don-t-upgrade-to-ventura-13-0RSS for NodeSat, 04 Apr 2026 14:47:24 GMTThu, 27 Oct 2022 13:51:36 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Sat, 29 Oct 2022 23:06:10 GMT]]>In case anyone needs the download link, it is at: https://riverdark.net/atlantis/downloads/

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9363https://brandmu.day/post/9363Sat, 29 Oct 2022 23:06:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Sat, 29 Oct 2022 00:29:54 GMT]]>0.9.9.8 is now up with the fix for crashes. Automatic updates aren’t working right now, so you’ll need to download manually for the update.

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9340https://brandmu.day/post/9340Sat, 29 Oct 2022 00:29:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Fri, 28 Oct 2022 23:59:56 GMT]]>Pax has identified a fix and is working on rolling it out!

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9338https://brandmu.day/post/9338Fri, 28 Oct 2022 23:59:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Fri, 28 Oct 2022 21:23:30 GMT]]>@Tez said in Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0:

@Polk I’ve been informed (by @Tat!) that running Beip on Wine kills notifications. But you have spawns, soooo.

For any atlantis users out there in despair, THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK allowed me to connect using Atlantis while I investigate Mudlet’s spawn windows:

  • I turned off my wifi.
  • I opened Atlantis.
  • I opened the game. (Obviously it couldn’t connect: no wifi.)
  • I reconnected to wifi.
  • I reconnected to the game.

It seems to be working. I’m sure if I close Atlantis or the computer goes to sleep or whatever, then it will crash again on reconnecting. But for the desperate, that has worked for me.

Update: This tragically did not work.

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9336https://brandmu.day/post/9336Fri, 28 Oct 2022 21:23:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Fri, 28 Oct 2022 01:31:27 GMT]]>@Tez Good luck!

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9325https://brandmu.day/post/9325Fri, 28 Oct 2022 01:31:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Thu, 27 Oct 2022 22:35:13 GMT]]>@Polk said in Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0:

Atlantis has been abandonware for most of its life.

I’m not really sure how long you expect software developers to maintain free stuff, but really getting any updates at all after an initial release is a blessing.

The fact that Atlantis has continued to work well for a lot of us for sixteen years, including a major update for 64bit OSes not that long ago, is a commendable feat.

I hope Sparks has the time and inclination to fix it for us, but either way the program’s had a great run.

On topic, no - I don’t know of any decent Mac MU clients besides Atlantis.

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9323https://brandmu.day/post/9323Thu, 27 Oct 2022 22:35:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Thu, 27 Oct 2022 17:41:38 GMT]]>@Polk This is not my mod voice, but now is not the time, please.

Does anyone else here use mudlet or any other Mac clients?

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9318https://brandmu.day/post/9318Thu, 27 Oct 2022 17:41:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Thu, 27 Oct 2022 17:16:44 GMT]]>@Tez said in Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0:

@Polk I’ve been informed (by @Tat!) that running Beip on Wine kills notifications. But you have spawns, soooo.

For any atlantis users out there in despair, THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK allowed me to connect using Atlantis while I investigate Mudlet’s spawn windows:

  • I turned off my wifi.
  • I opened Atlantis.
  • I opened the game. (Obviously it couldn’t connect: no wifi.)
  • I reconnected to wifi.
  • I reconnected to the game.

It seems to be working. I’m sure if I close Atlantis or the computer goes to sleep or whatever, then it will crash again on reconnecting. But for the desperate, that has worked for me.

I only updated my desktop and usually work off of my laptop, so I’ll have to wait to test this out but thank you!

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9316https://brandmu.day/post/9316Thu, 27 Oct 2022 17:16:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Thu, 27 Oct 2022 16:35:28 GMT]]>@helvetica How many years did it go with zero news and zero updates? 6? 8?

And then only got an update when it was going to become completely un-runnable?

I like the idea of a proper Mac-native client option, but I could never point someone to Atlantis. Especially when every time Atlantis users come onto Liberation, they run into weird display and font-rendering bugs nobody else has.

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9314https://brandmu.day/post/9314Thu, 27 Oct 2022 16:35:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Thu, 27 Oct 2022 16:33:21 GMT]]>@Polk said in Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0:

Atlantis has been abandonware for most of its life.

excuse me

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9313https://brandmu.day/post/9313Thu, 27 Oct 2022 16:33:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Thu, 27 Oct 2022 16:24:11 GMT]]>@sixregrets Well, you have to do updates. Which generally isn’t a big deal, but Atlantis has been abandonware for most of its life.

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9312https://brandmu.day/post/9312Thu, 27 Oct 2022 16:24:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Thu, 27 Oct 2022 16:10:03 GMT]]>BEIPMU FOR LIFE

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9311https://brandmu.day/post/9311Thu, 27 Oct 2022 16:10:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Thu, 27 Oct 2022 16:09:09 GMT]]>mac OS sure seems to break a lot of stuff with every annual update. It’s always fun to figure out what it will be this year.

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9310https://brandmu.day/post/9310Thu, 27 Oct 2022 16:09:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Thu, 27 Oct 2022 16:02:38 GMT]]>@Polk I’ve been informed (by @Tat!) that running Beip on Wine kills notifications. But you have spawns, soooo.

For any atlantis users out there in despair, THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK allowed me to connect using Atlantis while I investigate Mudlet’s spawn windows:

  • I turned off my wifi.
  • I opened Atlantis.
  • I opened the game. (Obviously it couldn’t connect: no wifi.)
  • I reconnected to wifi.
  • I reconnected to the game.

It seems to be working. I’m sure if I close Atlantis or the computer goes to sleep or whatever, then it will crash again on reconnecting. But for the desperate, that has worked for me.

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9309https://brandmu.day/post/9309Thu, 27 Oct 2022 16:02:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Thu, 27 Oct 2022 15:46:53 GMT]]>@Tez Another option you’d have is to run Beip with Wine, but that’s technically tricky in other ways. I know the spawn brigade on Liberation loves Beip.

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9308https://brandmu.day/post/9308Thu, 27 Oct 2022 15:46:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Thu, 27 Oct 2022 15:17:54 GMT]]>@Polk Yeah, I’m looking at some of the packages. It is definitely not as user-friendly as a lot of modern MU clients in terms of creating those spawns. That is a functionality that a lot of people using Altantis / Potato / Beip etc. made VERY heavy use out of, so I imagine that it will be a big barrier for Mudlet usage.

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9307https://brandmu.day/post/9307Thu, 27 Oct 2022 15:17:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Thu, 27 Oct 2022 15:14:31 GMT]]>@Tez i’m a terminal client guy but let me check. I always recommend Mudlet because it’s cross-platform, updated regularly, and does the basics like colors and unicode well.

It looks like you can create any number of windows in the main UI, dock them as you like, and put whatever you want into them.

https://cnwiki.mudlet.org/w/Manual:Geyser

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9306https://brandmu.day/post/9306Thu, 27 Oct 2022 15:14:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Thu, 27 Oct 2022 15:03:30 GMT]]>@Polk Hey, if mudlet is my friend, how do I do channel spawns?

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9305https://brandmu.day/post/9305Thu, 27 Oct 2022 15:03:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Thu, 27 Oct 2022 15:02:03 GMT]]>gdi

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9304https://brandmu.day/post/9304Thu, 27 Oct 2022 15:02:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Thu, 27 Oct 2022 14:39:39 GMT]]>@Polk UGH. FINE. I’ll TRY SOMETHING NEW.

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9303https://brandmu.day/post/9303Thu, 27 Oct 2022 14:39:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Thu, 27 Oct 2022 14:32:20 GMT]]>Mudlet is your friend.

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9302https://brandmu.day/post/9302Thu, 27 Oct 2022 14:32:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Atlantis Users - Don't Upgrade to Ventura 13.0 on Thu, 27 Oct 2022 14:26:36 GMT]]>@Tez Word. Mine is fine until I try to open a second world.

]]>https://brandmu.day/post/9301https://brandmu.day/post/9301Thu, 27 Oct 2022 14:26:36 GMT